[24897] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FW: Tech contact for Qwest?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Charles Sprickman)
Sat Aug 21 14:04:48 1999
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:03:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
To: fulton@uit.org
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9908211118280.16582-100000@shell.clark.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 fulton@uit.org wrote:
> Perhaps if we can get the "higher-ups" to stop hiring noc newbies based on
> certs and begin hiring based on raw intelligence...then maybe we can get
> the overall clue factor back to a reasonable level.
That's true I think. Most of the people I ask questions of posess neither
a CCIE nor a comp-sci degree. Some do, but not enough to convince me that
real-world experience and contact with knowledgeable people isn't a valid
"education". How many folks here that consider themselves a "leader" in
net ops at their place of employ were formally educated?
Charles
> On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Chris Flores wrote:
> > That's a fairly strong statement to make. Large telcos/ISPs tend to through
> > "newbie" engineers into situations where a experienced or senior engineer
> > belongs. Let's face facts - there are not enough IP engineers/technicians to
> > fill all the needed positions. Companies need to either have more peer
> > review or expect the "clueless" attitude toward customers. No one could
> > expect a entry level engineer to handle complex ISP BGP issues when they
> > barely understand VLSM/CIDR. The industry is much larger than previous
> > years(obvious), thus more entry level engineers.
>
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