[23878] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Severe Response Degradation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Balling)
Wed Apr 28 10:10:33 1999
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:03:05 -0700
To: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Derek Balling <dredd@megacity.org>
In-Reply-To: <37270F99.332632C5@senie.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
This one at least seems to work for 172.x.x.x addresses... fails horribly
on 10.0.0.0/8 addresses though:
> server 24.1.64.33
Default Server: proxy1.frmt1.sfba.home.com
Address: 24.1.64.33
> 172.16.4.38
Server: proxy1.frmt1.sfba.home.com
Address: 24.1.64.33
Name: bb1-hssi2-0-ds3.paix.home.net
Address: 172.16.4.38
That DNS server is the one I am "supposed" to point my home machine at
(except that I find using REAL services as opposed to the ones @home offers
gives me something better than "worthless" usability *grin*, so I don't
ordinarily use them unless I absolutely have to).
D
At 09:39 AM 4/28/99 -0400, Daniel Senie wrote:
>Derek Balling wrote:
>I've tried it, without success. If anyone finds a particular DNS server
>in their realm which does resolve these, please let me know. They seem
>to treat the info as trade secrets... very annoying.
Be nice if we could just harken a LITTLE back to the old Fidonet days, find
their IP-assignment practice for routers "Excessively annoying" and
excommunicate them. :)
>Considering the large chunk of 24/8 they have, I can't imagine why they
>had to use RFC 1918 addresses throughout their infrastructure. When I
>raised issues about this (just after getting a T1 to their network),
>they had no answers other than that since they chose an MTU of 1500
>bytes for all their links, they didn't think path MTU discovery would be
>an issue.
That sounds about what I've come to expect. Its interesting since I live in
Fremont, CA, where (if you hadn't heard) the City Council decided that
"Hey, you provide service over cable... and cable is regulated... you're
going to meet QoS standards or you're not going to provide cable service
here either".
This coming after the City Council called TCI@Home support during a council
meeting and was still on hold without having heard a human voice at the END
of the meeting. A group of like 50 residents or so all came to the City
Council meeting the same day TCI was getting fined for poor TV QoS (hold
times, etc.), and made a loud stink about the Internet offering (hold time,
ludicrous performance, etc.)
I think they might be able to get whacked with a very big Clue Stick, and
it could be very painful for them.
I should note here that I actually do know at least one person in the @Home
NOC (although not terribly well, but I'm at least acquainted with him) and
he seemed to possess much clue. From what I can tell though, sadly, he's in
the minority.
D
