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Re: aads renumbering rumor and implications

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Stuart)
Mon Jan 25 01:50:00 1999

To: "Michael P. Lyle" <icee@phoenix.lyle.org>
cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:48:14 PST."
             <19990124214814.A18303@phoenix.lyle.org> 
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:34:12 -0800
From: Stephen Stuart <stuart@tech.org>

> Holdon, i don't even see the need for that;  if you traceroute out, the
> packets will cross the exchange irregardless of whether you're announcing
> it to your customers, and a message of TTL exceeded will be generated
> from the exchange's address..  The important question is, should they
> be globally UNIQUE for troubleshooting purposes?  I think so.

When not advertising exchange point address space, the conditions with
respect to traceroute are much the same as that of RFC 1918 address
space; you can traceroute *through* it and get reports of TTL exceeded
from source addresses that you cannot reach as a destination. No big
deal to some, major diagnosis headache to others. I'd argue in favor
of reducing diagnosis headaches ... and I *hate* it when I can't
traceroute to points in the interior of providers who use RFC 1918
addresses internally. :-)

If the shared L2 media of an exchange point fabric did *not* have a
shared L3 address prefix as Alan Hannan noted earlier, where (as Alan
said) one party of a bi-lat coughed up a /30, then the reachability of
said prefix could be left to the parties to the bi-lat. Modern
equipment should be able to handle the quantity of secondary/alias
addresses needed to deal with number of /30s required to uniquely
number each bi-lat, no?

Stephen


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