[22733] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Incompetance abounds at the InterNIC
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phil Howard)
Tue Jan 19 18:34:18 1999
From: Phil Howard <phil@whistler.intur.net>
To: sthaug@nethelp.no
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:18:19 -0600 (CST)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <17379.916786440@verdi.nethelp.no> from "sthaug@nethelp.no" at Jan 19, 99 11:54:00 pm
> > > And most of the domains never have working name servers at all. The
> > > internic rules say you're supposed to have name service first. This
> > > isn't always practical, but if speculative domains don't have DNS within
> > > a few days, I'd think that'd be enough to wipe the allocations.
> >
> > So many people keep harping on the point of having name servers first.
> > But that's a silly and moot point. The name servers may well be behind
> > a firewall and the use of the domain name is intended for internal use
> > and needs to be registered externally for the same reason one should use
> > allocated address space from ARIN instead of picking random addresses.
>
> If you are behind a firewall, you can use RFC 1918 addresses. You don't
> need addresses from ARIN, and you don't need to pick at random.
<insert well known arguments against private addresses here>
> Relaxing the requirements for name servers seems like an excellent way
> of making the DNS even more broken than it already is. A number of TLDs
> (.no being one of them) will *enforce* a minimum of two functioning name
> servers for each domain. If you don't like this, you can of course take
> your business elsewhere.
As do more than a couple of million .com domains.
> > This is like telling people they have to be routed on the Internet to be
> > able to get an address allocation.
>
> Sure. Why should they be allocated global addresses when RFC 1918 is
> available?
There are many reasons. It's all been said before, but if you'd like to
have real life examples, reply in private as I don't want to rehash all
that on the list. It's bad enough that _this_ thread is even going on
at all (should be moved over to some domain list).
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