[22074] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: More Sidgemore on per-bit pricing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Sat Dec 5 21:32:54 1998
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:14:37 -0600
From: Karl Denninger <karl@Denninger.Net>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: Pete Kruckenberg <pete@kruckenberg.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199812052307.AA03332@world.std.com>; from Barry Shein on Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 06:07:35PM -0500
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 06:07:35PM -0500, Barry Shein wrote:
>
> On December 5, 1998 at 14:28 karl@denninger.net (Karl Denninger) wrote:
> > Absent BOTH of those on a worldwide basis and I could never justify
> > recommending to anyone that they accept such a pricing system.
>
> Of course you could, if the per-unit cost were the same, pro-rata, as
> paying for the whole thing. So if the choice was between paying
> $48K/mo for a DS3 vs $2K/mo for each DS1-equivalent the worst case is
> $48K/mo anyhow so may as well take your chances with crooks.
Except that if I don't need a DS-3 often then the possibility of being
billed for it when I wasn't the requestor is a hell of a liability.
> Particularly if, as I
> predict, it becomes a major way to sell a lot of very high bandwidth
> lines (155mb+) to customers who otherwise wouldn't consider so much
> bandwidth if they had to pay for all of it all the time.
Again, it depends on the risk factors.
> You're right that something has to be done, but I don't particularly
> accept that the situation is so untenable. On a service like this a
> credit for a bad week with a crook doesn't really drive the provider
> under either, particularly if they make some effort to prevent it
> (e.g. prosecuting abusers, detecting and blocking abuse quickly, etc.)
>
> I'd guess that one model which might work well is whitelisting: I want
> on-demand bandwidth up to, say, 155Mb/s to this short list of sites
> (VPN-ish), but only T1 to everyone else to prevent abuse.
Possibly, yes.
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