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Re: identify hostname

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Mischo)
Thu Dec 3 19:14:44 1998

Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:29:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan Mischo <supertaz@mindspring.net>
To: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
cc: Pete Kruckenberg <pete@kruckenberg.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199812030823.AAA16607@condor.lvrmr.mhsc.com>

this makes sense...until someone gets lazy, and takes a week to filter,
and the smurf brats catch on, and start querying DNS to find amplifiers.

-Taz

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On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:

> At 11:32 AM 12/2/98 -0700, Pete Kruckenberg wrote:
> >> I do have an access list deny for incoming destinations to *.*.*.255
> >> since I do know that the only customer we have with larger than a /24
> >> from us (via cw.net) also happens to have nothing larger than /26 in
> >> their network.  AFAIK, today, smurfers are only using *.*.*.255.  They
> >> would have to track a lot more information to use others, so for now I
> >> can generally expect that deny to prevent us from being an amplifier. 
> >
> >It's not difficult to find subnet broadcast addresses, since few routers
> >(if they even support it) are configured to filter ICMP replies. If there
> >isn't already software out there, it will take all of a few hours to add
> >broadcast-finding code to the smurfing software in existence.
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Why not make your down-stream fill out a *complete* IN-ADDR.ARPA file which
> lists their sub-net bcast and base addresses? That way yo could use the DNS
> system itself to find those addresses.
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