[21158] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (cjw@corp.home.net)
Thu Nov 5 13:05:34 1998
From: cjw@corp.home.net
To: gary miller <gem@rellim.com>
cc: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Nov 1998 02:38:20 PST."
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Reply-to: cjw@corp.home.net
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:39:12 -0800
Yo Gary...
@Home does not have a /8. Perhaps you should work just a little
bit on your facts...
---CJ
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com>
Subject: RE: ARIN?
Yo Patrick!
On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, I Am Not An Isp wrote:
> I do believe you are correct in your implication that @Home does not
> utilize address space quite as efficiently as most traditional ISPs.
> However, they are under a greater burden than your traditional ISP. Most
> of the equipment they were forced to use in the "early days", and possibly
> a good deal of it today, is not what I would call "optimal". They are
> forced to allocate /24s to some cable routers no matter how few customers
> there are on that router. Most do not understand classless IP, or even
> basic subnetting. Etc., etc.
If I downgrade my routers, do you think I can use this on my next
ARIN application? I would have been embarrased to try it even
when they got their address space.
> The point is, the people I know at @Home do try very hard to use their IP
> space within reason. But there are some things they just can not do.
I have no complaint with the people, I am just jealous.
BTW, their October 13, 1998 press release says they have 210K users.
Their /8 has 16,777,216 IP addresses give or take a few hundred
thousand. Not a bad packing ratio...
RGDS
GARY
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