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Re: ARIN?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (I Am Not An Isp)
Thu Nov 5 04:10:32 1998

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:58:27 -0800
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811032225410.10698-100000@iago.nac.net>

At 10:28 PM 11/3/98 -0500, alex@nac.net wrote:
>
>Again, we are applying for more space from ARIN.

Congrats, glad to see you're doing well.  (At least I hope your growth
indicates you are doing well. :)

>Some of the questions we got from them range from "please provide a
>network map and/or customers justification as to why they needed a /24" to
>"please provide where your POPs are, how many dialups there are in that
>POP, and how many ports you have in that dialup."
>
>I'd love to know if larger places (UU? PSI? MCI? Sprint? etc) have to
>answer questions like this when they apply for space.

I happen to know a reasonably large ISP which has to go through some pretty
difficult justification to get more space.  You should try a RWHOIS server,
it can help make it easier to "justify" stuff for ARIN.  (At least that's
what some people tell me, I've never set one up myself.)

>I don't want to hear an answer from ARIN, I would like feedback from
>actual customers of ARIN.

I've seen lots of companies jump through some major hoops, and I don't
really begrudge ARIN the necessity of making sure the allocations are made
... frugally.  But I do wonder why they would ask for geographical
information other than to be sure the space is used within "America".  (Or
is that even a requirement?)

>       Alex Rubenstein, alex@nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member

TTFN,
patrick

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