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Re: Despamming wholesale dialup

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lists@die.net)
Mon Nov 2 15:33:24 1998

Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:39:04 -0800 (PST)
From: <lists@die.net>
To: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cp.net>
cc: Bryan Bradsby <Bryan.Bradsby@capnet.state.tx.us>,
        Scott Gifford <sgifford@tir.com>, Harold Willison <harold@agis.net>,
        "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <19981030083703.54871@cp.net>

> Quick note about ORBS: there are people ORBS blocks (such as GOL in Japan)
> which do not have any open relays, and never did.  It's purely a personal
> grudge held by the ORBS operator.

Having bought into the "only open relays" and "only automated testing"
claims of ORBS, I was doubtful here.  I was a bit shocked to find all of
203.216.0.0/16 in the zonefile for ORBS and asked the ORBS maintainer about
it.

He replied:

	The administrator 203.216.0.0/16 specifically requested ... actually
	... demanded that his address space be added to ORBS and that I
	forever desist from testing his addresses or notifying him of 
	open relays.

	I had about 70 open relays listed in that range at that time.
	Since he requested that the entire space be added to ORBS, 
	I complied.  

	This is the only address space in ORBS that comprises more than
	one address and which each address has not specifically been tested 
	to be open relays.

He attached copies of mail from abuse@gol.ad.jp which more or less request
exactly that.  Copies are available upon request.

I also looked through the zonefile a bit more and found no other wildcards.

Apologies to those of you trying to drop the spam thread.

                              Aaron Hopkins
                              Chief Technology Officer
                              Cyberverse, Inc.


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