[21029] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Rootshell pages hacked
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex P. Rudnev)
Mon Nov 2 06:43:23 1998
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:35:23 +0300 (MSK)
From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex@Relcom.EU.net>
To: Michael Freeman <mikef@boris.talentsoft.com>
cc: "Adam D. McKenna" <adam@flounder.net>, Joe Shaw <jshaw@insync.net>,
JR Mayberry <rick@magpage.com>, neil <neil@junior.uwc.ac.za>,
Russ Haynal <russ@navigators.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981031144441.26076A-100000@boris.talentsoft.com>
SSh withouth S/KEy or some kind of one time password is useless in case
of any compromyse passwords (except the case when you'd like to restrict
acxcess to the trusted set of hosts). SSH itself do not believe to be a
problem, UNIX one-time passwords are real problem. Another bad problem is
_the same UNIX password for all purposes_ - I can sniff your FTP password
and use it for SSH access (for example).
On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Michael Freeman wrote:
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:45:51 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page)
> From: Michael Freeman <mikef@boris.talentsoft.com>
> To: "Adam D. McKenna" <adam@flounder.net>
> Cc: Joe Shaw <jshaw@insync.net>, JR Mayberry <rick@magpage.com>,
> neil <neil@junior.uwc.ac.za>, Russ Haynal <russ@navigators.com>,
> nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Rootshell pages hacked
>
> It is not a fucking problem in SSH! Jesus christ, people do not listen.
> If it had anything to do with ssh, heres what happened. (speculation) A
> trusted host was compromised that Kit Knox or another rootshell staff
> member used, ssh was trojaned and passwords were snagged, and the intruder
> simply walked right in through the front door. Nothing sophisticated,
> nothing fancy, no ssh remote exploits.
>
> On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Adam D. McKenna wrote:
>
> > They claim they were running only qmail, apache and ssh, but who knows if
> > that's true.
> >
> > I have heard rumours about an ssh exploit but nothing concrete.
> >
> > --Adam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Shaw <jshaw@insync.net>
> > To: JR Mayberry <rick@magpage.com>
> > Cc: neil <neil@junior.uwc.ac.za>; Russ Haynal <russ@navigators.com>;
> > nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu>
> > Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 2:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Rootshell pages hacked
> >
> >
> > I thought they were runnign qmail?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, JR Mayberry wrote:
> >
> > > Supposedly sendmail 8.9.1 is to blame, not ssh.
> > > http://www.sendmail.com/sendmail.8.9.1a.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow
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