[20995] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Despamming wholesale dialup
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dean Anderson)
Fri Oct 30 18:09:36 1998
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:42:50 -0500
To: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@nacs.net>
From: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
Cc: Scott Gifford <sgifford@tir.com>, Harold Willison <harold@agis.net>,
"Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Give it a rest. You won't be stopping spam. Dream on if you like.
But take it off Nanog.
--Dean
At 04:30 PM 10/30/98 -0500, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
>On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 01:52:19PM -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
>> One problem is that the wholesale provider may not have permission to do
>> this. You must obtain permission from a party to the communication prior to
>> interfering with it, unless it qualifies as an abuse.
>
>Don't start again, Dean.
>
>> You should be aware that the pro-spammers have a bill in Congress to
>> explicitly define spam as a legitimate activity, ie not an abuse. It will
>> likely be passed in this session.
>
>Wrong. It died. Unfortunately, the telephone anti-slamming bill died with
>it - the spam rider was attached to the anti-slamming bill.
>
>>I tried to tell people a year and a half
>> ago that spammers were closely associated with an advertising lobby that
>> would be effective on this is issue, and that they needed to try a more
>> reasonable approach. But they insisted "I was wrong".
>
>You're still wrong. The DMA and its members seem to be adopting a wait-and-
>see attitude, although they seem to be moving towards action...
>
>> So "Spam fighting" is now a lost cause
>
>Whatever.
>
>> which should not be discussed on Nanog anyway.
>
>Which doesn't stop you from whining about spamfighters every few months
>anyhow.
>
>
>--
>Steve Sobol [sjsobol@nacs.net]
>Part-time Support Droid [support@nacs.net]
>NACS Spaminator [abuse@nacs.net]
>
>Spotted on a bumper sticker: "Possum. The other white meat."
>
>
>
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