[2052] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Allocation of IP Addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Fleming)
Thu Mar 14 00:28:49 1996
From: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@unety.net>
To: "'David R. Conrad'" <davidc@apnic.net>,
Michael Dillon
<michael@memra.com>
Cc: "'com-priv list'" <com-priv@psi.com>,
"davidc@teckla.apnic.net"
<davidc@teckla.apnic.net>,
"'NANOG List'" <nanog@merit.edu>,
"'NIC Registry list'" <nic-registry@internic.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:20:35 -0600
How much attention is paid to how blocks are being used...???
Why doesn't the Internic require that Class A delegates, use those
addresses rather than addresses from other parts of the spectrum...???
For example, why are name servers allowed in 192 and 204...as shown below...???
It would be easy for the Internic to have a policy that does not allow the following...
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$ whois 12.0.0.0
AT&T Bell Laboratories (NET-ATT)
6200 East Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43213
Netname: ATT
Netnumber: 12.0.0.0
Coordinator:
Martin, Lisa (LM283) Lisa.Nowak.Martin@ATT.COM
614-860-3409
Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
GW1.ATT.COM 192.20.239.133
GW4.ATT.COM 204.179.186.34
NS.RESEARCH.ATT.COM 192.20.225.4
Record last updated on 30-Jan-96.
The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
(Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
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Should companies be given recognition for "Internet Ecology" efforts...???
Hewlett-Packard Company (NET-HP-INTERNET)
3000 Hanover Street
Palo Alto, CA 94304
Netname: HP-INTERNET
Netnumber: 15.0.0.0
Coordinator:
Milligan, Michael (MM53) milli@HP.COM
+1 408 746 5399
Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
HP.COM 15.255.152.4
HPCUOC.CUP.HP.COM 15.255.208.5
HPFCLA.FC.HP.COM 15.254.48.2
HPLB.HPL.HP.COM 15.255.59.2
RELAY.HP.COM 15.255.152.2
Record last updated on 16-Aug-95.
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Jim Fleming
Naperville, IL
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From: David R. Conrad[SMTP:davidc@apnic.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 1996 8:49 PM
To: Michael Dillon
Cc: 'com-priv list'; 'NANOG List'; 'NIC Registry list'; davidc@teckla.apnic.net
Subject: Re: Allocation of IP Addresses
>> Bullshit. The InterNIC is very much aware of global routing issues.
>Then why have they not yet come up with a workable policy like the one
>RIPE uses to release /16 blocks incrementally to new ISP's?
All 3 registries have essentially the same policy with respect to the
growth of new blocks. However, given InterNIC's load, the end effect
may be different (remember, InterNIC receives approximately 50 new ISP
requests per week -- how much space should they reserve for new ISPs?).
>> What business issues are you talking about?
>Basically, the market demand is INCREDIBLY HIGH and businesses want to
>build up infrastructure to meet this demand but the Internic IP address
>allocation procedures are too confusing and take too long.
Your proposal is? If you say charging for address space, please
explain what would stop deep pocket companies from buying up all the
address space?
Regards,
-drc
