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Re: [YA] Fwd: Class B Purchase

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kim Hubbard)
Tue Oct 6 23:28:54 1998

To: jared@puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:18:36 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: kimh@arin.net, michael@memra.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <19981006224823.A22678@puck.nether.net> from "Jared Mauch" at Oct 6, 98 10:48:23 pm
From: Kim Hubbard <kimh@arin.net>

> 
> On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:56:59PM -0400, Kim Hubbard wrote:
> > Michael,  
> > 
> > Could you define "legitimately multihomed" please?  
> 
> 	I think that a prime example would be a site such as
> progressive networks, cnn (turner), msbnc, or any other high
> traffic site.
> 
> 	They will be multiply connected to major providers,
> but most use some sort of ip director, and all their 
> machines sit on the same /24.
> 	
> 	Although I don't like the way some of these peoples networks
> are built, they don't have enough machines/servers to justify anything
> more than a /24 or even at most a /22, but still need provider
> independent space as they may show up at regional exchange points.
> 
> 	The best bet for these people in some cases is to go hunt for
> space that is "available", as ARIN and folks won't allocate such space.
> 
> 	Their other option is to sit on the network block of
> one of their providers, but some people do have issues with
> announcing other providers address space (like it's against their
> internal policies).
> 
> 	This would be a semi-justfiable use of a portable block
> less than a /19, would it not?
> 
> 	- Jared
> 
Speaking for myself (not ARIN or its members) I would say yes, however,
it's easy to list examples of multi-homed but we would need to either
list every acceptable example or state one definition that doesn't
make ARIN's staff have to subjectively decide which organization is
"legitimately" multi-homed.  From my experience (not to mention ARIN's
Advisory Council) this is more difficult than it seems.

Kim


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