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Re: [YA] Fwd: Class B Purchase

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Tue Oct 6 10:33:50 1998

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:19:21 -0500
From: Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
To: Brett Frankenberger <brettf@netcom.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199810061228.FAA04341@netcom12.netcom.com>; from Brett Frankenberger on Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:28:17AM -0500

On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:28:17AM -0500, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
> :: Karl Denninger writes ::
> > 
> > Oh, I'm quite certain  that the "registries" will recognize a court order,
> > which, if they refuse to recognize a reassignment, is precisely what they
> > *should* be forced to recognize.
> 
> Of course.  If a class B is sold, and ARIN is ordered by federal court
> to register it to the buyer, I'm confident that they will.
> 
> I'm also confident that it would be heavily discussed on lists such as
> this one.  
> 
> I think it's at least possible that some major providers would refuse
> to accept that route, in spite of the fact that ARIN's database would
> claim that it's valid.  Since ARIN has no enforcement power -- networks
> can accept or reject whatever routes they like -- what then?  Does the
> buyer then get a court order ordering every provider to accept the
> route?  Even if you can get such an order (and I'd be skeptical), it
> won't guarantee you reachability from outside the USA.
> 
> 
>           - Brett  (brettf@netcom.com)

Collusive behavior is a big, big problem Brett.  I'd love to see exactly
this kind of thing take place - it would be hilarious to see some of those
providers try to defend THAT.

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