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Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Thu Oct 1 13:21:01 1998

From: darcy@druid.net (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
To: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:41:11 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein), jshaw@insync.net (Joe Shaw),
        list@inet-access.net, inet-access@earth.com, nanog@merit.edu,
        domain-policy@lists.internic.net, com-priv@psi.com,
        publicaffairs@panet.us-state.gov
In-Reply-To: <199810010800.AA17239@world.std.com> from "Barry Shein" at Oct 01, 1998 04:00:20 AM

Thus spake Barry Shein
> On September 30, 1998 at 20:03 darcy@druid.net (D'Arcy J. M. Cain) wrote:
>  > >  > All that proves is someone has a sense of humor.  I've seen plenty of
>  > > No I think it indicates that a bunch of clowns have taken over what
>  > Actually, it proves that they are running the Juniper SMTP and haven't
> Well, maybe you missed the part about the website for the San
> Francisco Consulate of the Kingdom of Tonga (which the US State Dept
> lists as their official presence in the US) being an advertisement for
> a software company.

Uh, no.  All I was trying to do was add a little information to the
discussion.  If I had known nothing about Juniper but knew something
that explained why you saw an ad on the website I would have addressed
that issue.  I wasn't even arguing for or against your position.  All I
was trying to do was correct a factual error.

> It was all part of a picture that the .to domain may have ceased to
> serve as a country TLD for the Kingdom of Tonga.

And as I tried to point out, part of the picture was false.  Those
messages are the standard ones that come with a particular SMTP daemon.
Not that I am suggesting that there would be something wrong with
having a sense of humour but in this case it was simply a more or less
blind software install.

> What if a country ceased to exist entirely and the domain they were
> using was hijacked by some random, unrelated entity for their own
> malicious purposes? Would that justify decommissioning the TLD

I don't know.  I'm not the one making these decisions.  Are you?

> (meaning, removing it from the root servers)?

Ok, no need to be patronizing.  I think everyone here knows what you mean.

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