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Re: 4 or smaller digit ASNs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Sat Oct 14 04:13:02 2017

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il>
In-Reply-To: <cfd4c969-b6f1-5a23-267f-ae820ef3e03c@efes.iucc.ac.il>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, Hank Nussbacher wrote:

> On 12/10/2017 08:47, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> James,
>>
>> As far as I know, you can't buy an existing ASN for any amount of money. You can buy the company that owns it, but that seems like boiling tea with a blowtorch.
>>
>> I sincerely doubt there are unused low-number ASNs, but you could always ask ARIN.
>>
>> I'm curious what your client's rationale is for wanting a low ASN.
> It is called ASN-envy.

And here smaller is better :)

How would one go about cleaning up the provenance and either re-using or 
selling an ASN, supposing:

1) you are all the registered contacts for the ASN and your ARIN POC is 
still valid

2) the ASN was owned by (ok...it's ARIN[1], so "registered to") a defunct 
corporation (inactive >10 years) of which you were part-owner

3) the ARIN maintenance fees have been unpaid >10 years...yet the ASN 
still exists in whois

[1] It was actually assigned pre-ARIN, but to an org that eventually 
signed the RSA...so I wonder...are the maintenance fees really past 
due...and is this why the ASN was never reclaimed while the IP space 
(which was allocated by ARIN) was?

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