[195603] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Last Week's Canadian Fiber Cut
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Stewart)
Mon Aug 28 21:22:34 2017
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From: Paul Stewart <paul@paulstewart.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:51:48 -0400
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To: Christopher Morrell <christopher.morrell.nanog@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Yeah good point Chris =E2=80=A6. Got thinking about this too much from =
an IP perspective :)
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Christopher Morrell =
<christopher.morrell.nanog@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Let=E2=80=99s not forget that all POTS and cell service was offline =
during the outage - even for local and 911 service.=20
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> There is some high level of dependence on some equipment in Quebec =
and/or westward which should not be there.
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> A double fault like that should not knock out all local service for 4 =
out of 10 provinces. I would expect that an architectural review is =
under way.=20
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> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 16:14 Paul Stewart <paul@paulstewart.org =
<mailto:paul@paulstewart.org>> wrote:
> It wasn=E2=80=99t an issue getting transatlantic - it was an issue =
within a relatively small region in Eastern Canada talking to the rest =
of the world for certain carriers. There were several smaller =
carriers/providers not affected - just happens the local incumbent telco =
and one of their larger competitors got knocked out =E2=80=A6
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> > On Aug 15, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net =
<mailto:jared@puck.nether.net>> wrote:
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> >> On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Rod Beck =
<rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com =
<mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote:
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> >> Did we ever get any resolution on why this was such a big outage? =
Appears there were two fiber cuts. Were the fibers damaged in the same =
conduit? Is this a collapsed ring scenario?
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/concerns-about-backup-=
bell-outage-1.4239064 =
<http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/concerns-about-backup=
-bell-outage-1.4239064>
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> > Perhaps some transatlantic fallback? It looks like the only cable =
out there is the Greenland one.. guessing that=E2=80=99s not very =
competitive? It only gets you to Iceland it seems.
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> > - Jared
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