[195550] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: 100G - Whitebox
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Woodcock)
Sun Aug 20 12:41:50 2017
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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 09:40:49 -0700
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
From: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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Why don't we just swap out your 40g switch for a 100g switch? You've had th=
e 40g one for a while, and we anticipate upgrades every 18-24 months.=20
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-Bill
> On Aug 20, 2017, at 08:46, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I first sent to an IX-specific mailing list, but as I have yet to see the m=
essage hit the list, I figured I would post it here as well.=20
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> We've had multiple requests for 100G interfaces (instead of Nx10G) and no o=
ne seems to care about the 40G interfaces we have available.=20
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> Looking at cost effective options brings us to whitebox switches. Obviousl=
y there's a wide range of hardware vendors and there are a few OSes availabl=
e as well. Cumulus seems to be the market leader, while IPinFusion seems to b=
e the most feature-rich.=20
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> We're not doing any automation on the switches at this time, so it would s=
till need decent manual configuration. It wouldn't need a Cisco-centric CLI a=
s we're quite comfortable managing standard Linux-type config files. We're n=
ot going all-in on some overlay either given that we wouldn't be replacing o=
ur entire infrastructure, only supplementing it where we need 100G. I know t=
hat LINX has gone IPinfusion. What OS would be appropriate for our usage? I'=
m not finding many good comparisons of the OSes out there. I'm assuming any o=
f them would work, but there may be gotchas that a "cheapest that meets requ=
irements" doesn't quite unveil.=20
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> Any particular hardware platforms to go towards or avoid? Broadcom Tomahaw=
k seems to be quite popular with varying control planes. LINX went Edgecore,=
which was on my list given my experience with other Accton brands. Fibersto=
re has a switch where they actually publish the pricing vs. a bunch of myste=
ry.=20
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> Mike Hammett=20
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> http://www.midwest-ix.com=20
