[195534] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Virtual or Remote Peering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Thu Aug 17 07:41:52 2017
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 06:41:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20170817054220.GA4618@besserwisser.org>
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A company you have a contractual arrangement with vs. random operators of w=
hich neither you nor the end party have any relationship with. Which one's =
unreliable, again?=20
From a technical perspective:=20
router located with IX > wave to IX > switched PtP\PtMP to IX > remote peer=
ing service > transit=20
Fiscally, it's almost the other way around, with where transit goes being v=
ariable based on locations and volumes.=20
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Mike Hammett=20
Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
http://www.ics-il.com=20
Midwest-IX=20
http://www.midwest-ix.com=20
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From: "M=C3=A5ns Nilsson" <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>=20
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>=20
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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:42:21 AM=20
Subject: Re: Virtual or Remote Peering=20
Subject: Re: Virtual or Remote Peering Date: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 08:02:47A=
M -0500 Quoting Mike Hammett (nanog@ics-il.net):=20
>>> How well does this service work? I understand it usually involves point=
-to-multipoint Switched Ethernet with VLANs and resold IX ports. Sounds lik=
e a service for ISP that would like to peer, but have relatively small volu=
mes for peering purposes or lopsided volumes.=20
>> Its like buying regular ip-transit, but worse.=20
> That seems to be a rather lopsided opinion.=20
You get connections to other operators over an unreliable path that you=20
have no control over, and the opportunities to keep traffic local are=20
limited. Adding to that, it is all your fault since your provider does=20
not do L3 and can claim a very passive r=C3=B4le in the process.=20
Like transit, but worse.=20
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