[195464] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: US/Canada International border concerns for routing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hiers, David)
Thu Aug 10 18:44:16 2017
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Hiers, David" <David.Hiers@cdk.com>
To: Andrew Kerr <andrew@thekerrs.ca>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 14:11:28 +0000
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