[195439] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: US/Canada International border concerns for routing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keenan Tims)
Tue Aug 8 20:48:29 2017
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From: Keenan Tims <ktims@stargate.ca>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:48:26 -0700
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On 2017-08-08 17:10, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> No. In fact, Bell Canada / Bell Aliant and Telus guarantee that you_will_ go through Chicago, Seattle, New York, or Ashburn, since none of them peer anywhere in Canada at all.
The major national networks (Bell, Rogers, Telus, Shaw, Zayo/Allstream)
do peer with each other and some other large / old Canadian networks
(e.g. MTS, SaskTel, Peer1) within Canada. While they do practice peering
protectionism and only purchase transit out of country, the situation is
not *quite* so bad that all traffic round-trips through the US.
Of course if neither side of the conversation has at least one of those
major networks as a transit upstream - which is most of the eyeballs and
most of the important Canadian content - you'll see that hop through
Chicago or Seattle (or worse). Which is exactly the way they like it.
Keenan
