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Re: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Mon Jul 17 07:22:31 2017

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:22:26 +0000
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Agreed, however over the next 50 to 100 years you might see a big migration=
 North as temperature continue rising and continuous shipping via the North=
ern passage.


The Quintillion cable is really being built to link Asia and Europe via an =
ultra low latency path. Attaching fiber spurs to those Northern Communities=
 is a way of getting Canadian government support and money.


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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of nanog-isp@mail.com <nano=
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Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:50 AM
To: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources

There are a lot more cows than people with money in rural/remote areas.

Getting fiber to remote unserved areas is not a technical problem, it's a m=
oney/political problem.

On a good day, deploying 400 km of fiber costs in the ballpark of $10M. To =
that you then have to add the recurring costs of operations, maintenance an=
d fees for the use of the right of way.

If the community can pay for that, all is good and well, just have at it. I=
f not, somebody has to subsidize it and then it becomes a political problem=
.

Jared


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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> on behalf of Alain Hebert <ahebert=
 at pubnix.net>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:05 PM
To: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Friday musing - Long distance fiber deployment resources

     Warning: For just plain curiosity at the moment.


     I was looking for publicly accessible feasibility studies, white
papers, etc, about long distance fiber deployment.  (> 400km, aka >250
miles)

     The interest comes from documenting myself about how poorly
deserved are the northern communities in Canada.  And how "freakn a
shame it is to get pwned" by France telecom wise =3DD.

     At this point my Goolge Fu is hardly getting thru the pointless
clutter search engines accumulated over the years...


     From the numerous input so far:

         A lot of the attempts where made to use facilities like rail or
electrical grid distribution, but it always ended squashed by a massive
push back from the telecom industries, and in one case, maybe the FMI.


     I'm thinking:

         If people can invest millions into DOTCOM that put fitbits on
cows...  There must be a way to help those communities.  And ourself,
from under the telecom giants.


     Thanks.

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