[194827] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Fri Jun 2 14:57:02 2017
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From: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
To: "valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu" <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu>, Christopher Morrow
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 18:55:55 +0000
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The plan is to decommission TAT-14 in 2024. That is long before the next Bi=
blical Flood due the ice caps melting. The Trans-Atlantic systems have a li=
fe span at best of 30 years. When the next set of systems is built rising w=
aters will be taken into account.
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Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 8:40 PM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: Rod Beck; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables
On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 13:23:26 -0400, Christopher Morrow said:
> is this a case of 'wherer the cable gets dry' vs 'where the electronics
> doing cable things lives' ?
> aren't (normally) the dry equipment locations a bit inland and then have
> last-mile services from the consortium members headed inland to their
> respective network pops?
Well, I'd be willing to buy that logic, except the specific buildings calle=
d
out look pretty damned big for just drying off a cable. For example, this
is claimed to be the US landing point for TAT-14 - looks around 4K square f=
eet?
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/tuckerton-cable-landing-station/view/go=
ogle/
[http://khm0.googleapis.com/kh?v=3D726&hl=3Den-US&x=3D307790&y=3D398428&z=
=3D20]<http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/tuckerton-cable-landing-station/=
view/google/>
Tuckerton Cable Landing Station in Tuckerton, NJ (Google ...<http://virtual=
globetrotting.com/map/tuckerton-cable-landing-station/view/google/>
virtualglobetrotting.com
Tuckerton Cable Landing Station (Google Maps). Tuckerton Cable Landing Stat=
ion hosts the TAT-14 fibre cable which runs 15,000km to...
Though I admit I'm foggy on how much gear is needed to stuff however many a=
mps
at 4,000 volts down the cable core to power the repeaters. But again - if
there's gear stuffing that many amps at that many volts down a cable, salt
water could be the start of a bad day...
(And note - I'm not saying that *everybody* who built a cable landing stati=
on
managed to get it wrong. I'm saying that with the number of landing statio=
ns
in existence, the chance that *somebody* got it wrong is probably scarily h=
igh.
Telco and internet experiences in New Orleans during Katrina and NYC during
Sandy suggest there's a lot of infrastructure built with "we never had stor=
m
surge in this building before so it can't happen" planning....)
