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Re: Please run windows update now

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (LHC (k9m))
Tue May 16 14:01:38 2017

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 11:01:20 -0700
In-Reply-To: <m2r2zqcxos.wl-randy@psg.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "LHC (k9m)" <large.hadron.collider@gmx.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

YOU WENT THERE (ignores enough to run for president)

On May 15, 2017 1:48:51 AM PDT, Randy Bush <randy@psg=2Ecom> wrote:
>> Or BSD, or anything but Windows=2E  Anyone running Microsoft products
>> is quite clearly an unprofessional, unethical moron and fully
>deserves
>> all the pain they get -- including being sued into oblivion by their
>> customers and clients for their obvious incompetence and negligence=2E
>
>aside from being grossly rude, hyperbolic, and uninteligent, this rant
>ignores reality enough to make you a viable presidential candidate=2E
>
>80% of desk/laptops run windows=2E  get over it=2E  windows is embedded i=
n
>many systems which will be hard to update in an hour or 100 hours=2E  and
>rude ranting is not doing one micron to help deal with it=2E
>
>embedded systems are very hard to update, think special drivers, kinky
>mods, =2E=2E=2E  aside from the long softdev time, how much time do you t=
hink
>QA will take for moving a piece of medical equipment from xp to win10,
>let alone bsd?  and the state of the bsd update process is not
>something
>to describe in polite company=2E
>
>we have a vulnerable chain from weak software (which is improving, and
>msoft has been in the lead there for a decade), to nsa/cia not
>disclosing, to people choosing or having to run old versions (of
>whatever (and linux/bsd are not immune) for financial or technical
>reasons, to the conservative or lazy logistics of patching=2E  we can try
>to improve things at each link=2E  but this is gonna be slow=2E
>
>though this ransomware attack is not really that much larger than other
>attacks in the past (and the future is not cheering), at least it has
>reached the front pages and maybe people will patch more and vendors
>will issue more/better updates=2E  but, as @zeynep says, the lack of
>liability along the chain above allows bad practices to continue=2E
>
>in the meantime, backup, backup and take it offline so it does not get
>encrypted for you, patch, turn off unnecessary services/options, rinse
>repeat=2E  and try to promote prudent use among friends, family, and
>workplace=2E
>
>randy

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