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RE: SD-WAN for enlightened

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doug Marschke)
Tue May 2 13:44:56 2017

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Too many to list.  I don=E2=80=99t know who is =E2=80=9Cwinning=E2=80=9D =
in market share right now, as I am sure each vendor tracks their wins =
differently.

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There are definitely a few making more noise than others.

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Doug Marschke

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From: Colton Conor [mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:26 PM
To: Doug Marschke <doug@sdnessentials.com>
Cc: Kasper Adel <karim.adel@gmail.com>; NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: SD-WAN for enlightened

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So who are the big SD-WAN players out there?=20

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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Doug Marschke <doug@sdnessentials.com =
<mailto:doug@sdnessentials.com> > wrote:

Hello Kasper,

I will do my best to answer your SD-WAN question, but as you mentioned =
it is a buzzword that has a bit of confusion in its definitions.  I =
would say that a SD-WAN solution should have the following elements:

1.) Ability to manage multiple WAN connection and choose the path based =
on user and machine criteria (The Hybrid WAN)
2.) A controller to manage the polices and operations of the SD-WAN =
devices
3.) Analytics on the network and application level
4.) A software overlay that abstracts and secures the underlying =
networks

Currently there are a lot of solutions out there by many vendors.  Some =
do all of these and some a subset, so it make the landscape a bit =
confusing.   Lots of times vendors use SD-WAN when they are really just =
talking about Hybrid WAN (multiple connections) or WAN optimization.





Doug Marschke
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<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org> ] On Behalf Of Kasper Adel
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Subject: SD-WAN for enlightened

Hi,

I'm not sure if the buzzword SD-WAN is used to compensate for another =
buzzword that got over-utilized (SDN) or it is a true 'new and improved'
way of doing things that has some innovation into it.

I heard different explanation from different vendors:

1) appliances (+ controller) placed in-line to put traffic in tunnels =
based on policy, with some DPI and traffic tagging...(to do =
performance/policy based routing) over an expensive link (MPLS) and a =
cheap one (broadband) with some 'firewall-like' filtering capabilities.
2) same as above, with a flavor of 'machine learning' to find a pattern =
for traffic to optimize utilization.
3) a controller that instantiates and tears down tunnels from 'classic =
routers' based on external policies and Network based features to do =
performance based routing over an expensive link (MPLS) and a cheap one
(broadband) with encryption.

Is the above a decent high-level summary?

Has anyone tried any of these solutions, any general feedback ?

Cheers,
Kim

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