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Re: AWS us-west-2 routed through Europe from NY?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nikolas Geyer)
Mon May 1 14:34:32 2017

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Nikolas Geyer <nik@neko.id.au>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 18:34:28 +0000
In-Reply-To: <d22ada9300e8a04f228f6532091b2184@andrei.myip.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

It hasn't gone through Europe, it's just most of Telia's IP space will retu=
rn a geolocation of Europe. The trace provided goes to New York, Chicago th=
en Seattle.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 May 2017, at 2:10 pm, Florin Andrei <florin@andrei.myip.org> wrote:
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> Phil,
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> The traceroute was done by a coworker in Quebec on April 26, from one of =
our corporate offices. His IP address was probably 104.163.180.188 at the t=
ime. He was tracing one of our endpoints in AWS us-west-2; I do not know wh=
ich IPs our endpoint had at the time, but one of its current IPs is 52.89.7=
3.31
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> This is the trace as he described it:
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> Route
> - #1: 2.7 ms
>  IP Address: 192.168.1.1
>  Hostname: local
>  TTL: 64
> - #2: 34.8 ms
>  IP Address: 10.170.162.238
>  TTL: 50
> - #3: 17.3 ms
>  IP Address: 10.170.192.53
>  TTL: 250
> - #4: 16.7 ms
>  IP Address: 74.116.184.145
>  Hostname: 0.xe-11-1-0.er1.mtl7.ebox.ca
>  TTL: 249
>  AS Number: AS1403
>  AS Name: EBOX
>  Country Name: Canada
>  Country Code: CA
>  Time Zone: America/Toronto
>  Region: Quebec
>  City: Vieux-Saint-Laurent
>  Latitude: 45.475
>  Longitude: -73.696
> - #5: 15.6 ms
>  IP Address: 213.248.76.201
>  Hostname: motl-b1-link.telia.net
>  TTL: 248
>  AS Number: AS1299
>  AS Name: Telia Company AB
>  Country Name: Europe
>  Country Code: EU
>  Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
> - #6: 31.8 ms
>  IP Address: 62.115.134.52
>  Hostname: nyk-bb4-link.telia.net
>  TTL: 247
>  AS Number: AS1299
>  AS Name: Telia Company AB
>  Country Name: Europe
>  Country Code: EU
>  Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
> - #7: 47.7 ms
>  IP Address: 213.155.136.19
>  Hostname: chi-b21-link.telia.net
>  TTL: 246
>  AS Number: AS1299
>  AS Name: Telia Company AB
>  Country Name: Europe
>  Country Code: EU
>  Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
> - #8: 89.7 ms
>  IP Address: 62.115.117.48
>  Hostname: sea-b1-link.telia.net
>  TTL: 245
>  AS Number: AS1299
>  AS Name: Telia Company AB
>  Country Name: Europe
>  Country Code: EU
>  Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
> - #9: 90.7 ms
>  IP Address: 62.115.34.102
>  Hostname: amazon-ic-302508-sea-b1.c.telia.net
>  TTL: 244
>  AS Number: AS1299
>  AS Name: Telia Company AB
>  Country Name: Europe
>  Country Code: EU
>  Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
> - #10: 86.3 ms
>  IP Address: 52.95.52.80
>  TTL: 239
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Washington
>  City: Seattle
>  Latitude: 47.634
>  Longitude: -122.342
> - #11: 80.8 ms
>  IP Address: 52.95.52.97
>  TTL: 241
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Washington
>  City: Seattle
>  Latitude: 47.634
>  Longitude: -122.342
> - #12: 86.1 ms
>  IP Address: 54.239.43.124
>  TTL: 240
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Washington
>  City: Seattle
>  Latitude: 47.610
>  Longitude: -122.334
> - #13: 94.3 ms
>  IP Address: 52.93.13.12
>  TTL: 235
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Oregon
>  City: Boardman
>  Latitude: 45.870
>  Longitude: -119.688
> - #14: 86.5 ms
>  IP Address: 52.93.12.249
>  TTL: 238
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Oregon
>  City: Boardman
>  Latitude: 45.870
>  Longitude: -119.688
> - #15: 111.7 ms
>  IP Address: 52.93.12.140
>  TTL: 234
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Oregon
>  City: Boardman
>  Latitude: 45.870
>  Longitude: -119.688
> - #16: 92.6 ms
>  IP Address: 52.93.12.173
>  TTL: 234
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Oregon
>  City: Boardman
>  Latitude: 45.870
>  Longitude: -119.688
> - #17: 88.3 ms
>  IP Address: 52.93.15.217
>  TTL: 236
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: Oregon
>  City: Boardman
>  Latitude: 45.870
>  Longitude: -119.688
> - #18: N/A
>  TTL: 0
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> We expected that trace to go straight East Coast / West Coast, but instea=
d it went through Europe.
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> For comparison, this is a trace also by same coworker to api.postmates.co=
m, which was correctly routed on the shortest geographical path (more or le=
ss):
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> Route
> - #1: 3.0 ms
>  IP Address: 192.168.1.1
>  Hostname: local
>  TTL: 64
> - #2: 29.0 ms
>  IP Address: 10.170.162.238
>  TTL: 50
> - #3: 17.9 ms
>  IP Address: 10.170.192.53
>  TTL: 250
> - #4: 19.7 ms
>  IP Address: 74.116.184.145
>  Hostname: 0.xe-11-1-0.er1.mtl7.ebox.ca
>  TTL: 249
>  AS Number: AS1403
>  AS Name: EBOX
>  Country Name: Canada
>  Country Code: CA
>  Time Zone: America/Toronto
>  Region: Quebec
>  City: Vieux-Saint-Laurent
>  Latitude: 45.475
>  Longitude: -73.696
> - #5: 17.7 ms
>  IP Address: 96.127.249.30
>  TTL: 248
>  AS Number: AS1403
>  AS Name: EBOX
>  Country Name: Canada
>  Country Code: CA
>  Time Zone: America/Toronto
>  Region: Quebec
>  City: Longueuil
>  Latitude: 45.518
>  Longitude: -73.502
> - #6: 18.0 ms
>  IP Address: 198.179.18.55
>  Hostname: cloudflare.peer.qix.ca
>  TTL: 247
>  Country Name: Canada
>  Country Code: CA
>  Time Zone: America/Toronto
>  Region: Quebec
>  City: Montreal
>  Latitude: 45.501
>  Longitude: -73.568
> - #7: 17.6 ms
>  IP Address: 104.16.42.25
>  Hostname: api.postmates.com
>  TTL: 55
>  AS Number: AS13335
>  AS Name: CloudFlare
>  Country Name: United States
>  Country Code: US
>  Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
>  Region: California
>  City: San Francisco
>  Latitude: 37.770
>  Longitude: -122.393
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>> On 2017-04-28 17:05, Phillip McGuire wrote:
>> Hey Florin,
>> Do you have a traceroute showing the issue? FYI, you can test against an=
y
>> of the IPs listed here under US-West-2, they all respond to ICMP request=
s.
>> http://ec2-reachability.amazonaws.com/
>> -Phil
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Florin Andrei <florin@andrei.myip.org>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-28 13:28, Niels Bakker wrote:
>>>> * florin@andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) [Fri 28 Apr 2017, 21:12 CEST]=
:
>>>>> I've seen a few strange instances where IP addresses in the AWS
>>>>> us-west-2 region (Oregon) are routed through Europe if you start the
>>>>> traceroute from some providers in the northern East Coast (Quebec, Ne=
w
>>>>> York). Any idea what's going on? I assume it's temporary.
>>>> Can you be a little bit more vague in your problem description?  While
>>>> ommitting the source networks from where you tried, you still included
>>>> the destination.  The list expects better.
>>> Sorry. Here's one source: 104.163.180.188
>>> --
>>> Florin Andrei
>>> http://florin.myip.org/
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> Florin Andrei
> http://florin.myip.org/

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