[194234] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Tue Mar 28 21:13:46 2017
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:13:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <12967433-3782-456E-8C03-23642CBD08EA@beckman.org>
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What about little ISPs? There are already monetization platforms out there =
that can be resold to small ISPs. The company sells the aggregate data upst=
ream. Not that I would, but in a small ISP, that money makes a big differen=
ce.=20
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Mike Hammett=20
Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
Midwest Internet Exchange=20
The Brothers WISP=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mel Beckman" <mel@beckman.org>=20
To: "Hugo Slabbert" <hugo@slabnet.com>=20
Cc: nanog@nanog.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 8:08:19 PM=20
Subject: Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineer=
s opposed to FCC privacy repeal=20
Hugo,=20
That's a great find! I note in the article:=20
"Not only is the price of the premier service (with ads) only $70 a month, =
but it comes with a waiver of equipment, installation, and activation fees.=
The standard service without ads is $99 a month..."=20
So that's $29 a month to let AT&T track your Web browsing, but only for tar=
geting ads. ATT promises "And we won=E2=80=99t sell your personal informati=
on to anyone, for any reason."=20
I would guess that the ability to sell that data would be worth several tim=
es the $29/month, so it's conceivable that a provider could offer $10/mo Gi=
g Internet in exchange for browsing history.=20
But nobody does.=20
Because they think they can steal it.=20
I think this pretty well demonstrates the greed of the big-ISP executives w=
ho lobbied for today's legislative atrocity, which lets them rob customers =
of browsing history that even AT&T execs acknowledge users own.=20
-mel beckman=20
On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com<mailto:hugo@sl=
abnet.com>> wrote:=20
Now, if ISPs want to PURCHASE browser data from customers directly, I'm=20
sure they'll get some takers. But that strategy has never appeared in=20
any business plan I've seen.=20
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/att-offers-gigabit-i=
nternet-discount-in-exchange-for-your-web-history/ ?=20
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Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: hugo@slabnet.com<mailto:hugo@slabnet.co=
m>=20
pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal=20
