[194030] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Purchased IPv4 Woes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Clayton Zekelman)
Sun Mar 12 11:16:24 2017
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 11:16:16 -0400
To: "Chuck Church" <chuckchurch@gmail.com>,
"'Justin Wilson'" <lists@mtin.net>,"'NANOG'" <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net>
In-Reply-To: <006401d29b42$f9b85640$ed2902c0$@gmail.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
What should and does happen are two different=20
things. The reputation lists aren't a regulated entity. The FBI is.
At 11:11 AM 12/03/2017, Chuck Church wrote:
>Maybe a silly idea, but shouldn't the sale of a=20
>block of addresses (RIR ownership change)=20
>trigger a removal of that block from all=20
>reputation list databases? If I buy a car from=20
>a police auction, I'm fairly sure the FBI=20
>doesn't start tailing me, because the car was=20
>once used for less than legal purposes. New owner, clean slate.
>
>Chuck
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson
>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:51 AM
>To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
>Subject: Re: Purchased IPv4 Woes
>
>I am interested in what broker you used as=20
>well. We have used a few that do a little due=20
>diligence on their end, but we still do our=20
>own. We have seen an auction pulled due to the=20
>space having a bad reputation, but we were the=20
>ones who had to step up and say something.
>
>
>Justin Wilson
>j2sw@mtin.net
>
>---
>http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>xISP Solutions- Consulting =AD Data Centers - Bandwidth
>http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman
>Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> > On Mar 10, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Pete Baldwin <pete@tccmail.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Hopefully this is not taken in bad=20
> taste. Our organization purchased some IP=20
> space last year (163.182.192.0/18 to be=20
> specific), and it appears that this block must=20
> have been used for less-than-admirable purposes in the past.
> >
> > We have been trying to clean up the=20
> reputation where possible, and we do not appear=20
> to be on any blacklists, but we do appear to be=20
> blocked from a lot of networks across the=20
> US/Canada. I am noticing a lot of name=20
> servers blocking our requests, many web servers, gaming servers, mail etc.
> >
> > This is a transition block for us to move=20
> towards v6 everywhere, but we have many systems=20
> that will need to rely on this block of space for some time to come.
> >
> > We are a small rural co-op ISP in Ontario,=20
> and I am just writing this email as an extra=20
> plea so that if you happen to run a network=20
> that has this entire range on your naughty=20
> list, we would appreciate you giving it another=20
> chance. I can be contacted on or off list, thanks.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Pete Baldwin
> > Tuckersmith Communications
> > (P) 519-565-2400
> > (C) 519-441-7383
> >
--=20
Clayton Zekelman
Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4
tel. 519-985-8410
fax. 519-985-8409 =20