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Re: Common Reliable Out Of Band Management Options at Carrier Hotels

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Wed Jan 18 10:29:47 2017

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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:29:43 -0500
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That is a good price, and a nice service from the provider.

However, why is that more diverse than LTE? If the colo provider uses =
the same transit and/or transit provider(s) you do, it sounds very =
not-diverse.

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TTFN,
patrick

> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Luke Guillory =
<lguillory@reservetele.com> wrote:
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> We were quoted sub $200 for 10M DIA from the datacenter which included =
a copper handoff which would be more diverse than the cell option.
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> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Patrick W. =
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:13 AM
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> Subject: Re: Common Reliable Out Of Band Management Options at Carrier =
Hotels
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> +1 for OpenGear + LTE / cell.
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> Obviously POTS works and is available in any carrier hotel and not =
insanely expensive.
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> Also, lots (not all) colocation providers will give you very cheap =
ethernet OOB. (E.g. Our colo gives you GigE for the cost of the xconn + =
2 Mbps 95/5 free.) I would ask before looking at getting a 3G/4G modem. =
Assuming, of course, you are comfortable with the colo provider=E2=80=99s =
network being diverse enough from your own.
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> TTFN,
> patrick
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>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 8:55 AM, David Hubbard =
<dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
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>> Provided you can get a cell signal, we=E2=80=99ve been very happy =
with Opengear boxes.  We=E2=80=99d been using their ACM5508 which is =
eight serial ports, two Ethernet, cell.  It runs linux, you can ssh into =
it, do fancy things like keep the cell side down and use text messages =
to bring it up if you need to get in, does VPN, PPTP, monitors =
environmental things if needed, etc.  They replaced that model with the =
7004 and 7008 (4 or 8 serial).  They have console servers if you need =
more ports; we have a 32-port daisy chained to a 5508 in a location we =
had serial growth, but their 7200-series is cell plus high density =
serial in one.
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>> In a data center with particularly bad cell reception, Opengear =
recommended getting a high gain antenna from wpsantennas.com.  I =
contacted them and the recommendation for my specific use case was a =
Panorama WMMG-7-27.  We had it mounted above the overhead infrastructure =
on top of our cage and it dramatically improved the signal to make it a =
non-issue.
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>> On 1/17/17, 4:59 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Darin Herteen" =
<nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of synack@live.com> wrote:
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>>   Greetings list,
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>>   We are exploring standardizing our Out Of Band options across our =
network and various off-net locations and the question was brought up =
"What about carrier hotels? What constraints might present themselves at =
those locations?"
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>>   Assuming each hotel we are located in can provide either Ethernet =
or DSL I'm guessing that is going to come a cost (cross-connects, rack =
space etc..) that might end up being cost prohibitive.
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>>   So my inquiry is... What does the list find to be a reasonably =
priced yet reliable solution in carrier hotels for OOB? Or is that =
contradictory :)
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>>   Thoughts on Cellular?
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>>   Any experience/insight would be appreciated.
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>>   Thanks,
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>>   Darin
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