[193424] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Apple Caching Server question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin Wilson)
Mon Jan 16 18:51:47 2017
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From: Justin Wilson <lists@mtin.net>
In-Reply-To: <93F22430-7A6C-48D6-BCE9-DCC72C020337@fiberphone.co.nz>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 18:51:42 -0500
To: Pete Mundy <pete@fiberphone.co.nz>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Content types supported by the Caching service
Justin Wilson
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> On Jan 16, 2017, at 6:20 PM, Pete Mundy <pete@fiberphone.co.nz> wrote:
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>> On 14/01/2017, at 6:25 am, Blake Hudson <blake@ispn.net> wrote:
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>> lane.powers@swat.coop wrote on 1/13/2017 7:43 AM:
>>> I saw the apple caching server mentioned on an earlier thread. Is =
this appropriate/functional/scaleable enough to implement as an ISP? It =
is an intriguing idea. =46rom the docs I could find, I couldn't tell if =
it was only geared towards home / small business or if it could scale up =
to handle ISP level traffic.
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>>> thanks,
>>> Lane
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>> I have no experience with the Apple caching service specifically, but =
I have used Apple products (including some of their server software) for =
decades. Apple used to make mac mini models exclusively for server use. =
Their low power draw and relatively high density makes them an =
interesting choice for those that don't mind using "desktop grade" =
hardware for a project. There are some folks that even make rack-mount =
solutions for the Mac mini and Mac pro (search for RackMac). That said, =
my experience with several mac minis is that you will have at least one =
fault that will put them out of production (dead PSU, faulty HDD, dead =
mainboard) in a 2-3 year period when ran 24/7.
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>> With Unix OS, a gigabit ethernet port, SSD, and i5 or i7, I would =
expect a mac mini to be as fast or faster than most other network =
appliances one might purchase. If one wanted something beefier, a mac =
pro would probably offer some expandability (on board dual 1gbps NICs + =
six 20Gbps thunderbolt 2 ports).
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>> I would see why one might be curious, especially if this could cache =
the IOS updates used for all those tablets and other iDevices folks =
purchase from Apple.
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> Those dual Mac Mini 1U rack-mount cases are great! Two of the =
quad-core 'server' versions of the Minis gave quite a bit of punch for =
only 1RU @ 300mm deep.
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> I have a couple of these types of builds deployed for VoIP services in =
different DCs, both with auto failover from one Mini to the other. But =
in the 6 years they've been operation we've never had any failure =
requiring use of the failover machines :)
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> Re the Apple Caching Server - I don't believe that will work at the =
ISP level. My understanding is that the clients requesting their updates =
are redirected (by Apple's own servers) to the caching server only if =
the caching server and the requesting client both appear (from Apple's =
perspective) to originate from behind the same (NAT'd) public IP =
address.
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> Pete
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