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Re: External BGP Controller for L3 Switch BGP routing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Saku Ytti)
Mon Jan 16 08:59:20 2017

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From: Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:59:16 +0200
To: Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 16 January 2017 at 14:36, Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no> wrote:

> But here you're talking about the RTT of each individual link, right,
> not the RTT of the entire path through the Internet for any given flow?

I'm talking about RTT of end-to-end, which will determine window-size,
which will determine burst-size. Your worst burst will be half of
needed window size, and you need to be able to ingest this burst at
sender rate, regardless of receiver rate.

> Put it another way, my =C2=ABInternet facing=C2=BB interfaces are typical=
ly 10GEs with
> a few (kilo)metres of dark fibre that x-connects into my IP-transit provi=
ders'
> routers sitting in nearby rooms or racks (worst case somewhere else in
> the same metro area). Is there any reason why I should need deep
> buffers on those interfaces?

Imagine content network having 40Gbps connection, and client having
10Gbps connection, and network between them is lossless and has RTT of
200ms. To achieve 10Gbps rate receiver needs 10Gbps*200ms =3D 250MB
window, in worst case 125MB window could grow into 250MB window,  and
sender could send the 125MB at 40Gbps burst.
This means the port receiver is attached to, needs to store the 125MB,
as it's only serialising it at 10Gbps. If it  cannot store it, window
will shrink and receiver cannot get 10Gbps.

This is quite pathological example, but you can try with much less
pathological numbers, remembering TridentII has 12MB of buffers.

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