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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shawn L)
Wed Jan 4 12:56:38 2017

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 09:08:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "Shawn L" <shawnl@up.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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=0ADepending on the area and conditions (rock, etc).  We're seeing=0A =0A$4=
 /foot Aerial=0A$5-$7 /foot direct bury=0A$10 - $14 /foot directional bore=
=0A =0AThese are not including the fiber cable itself.=0A =0A=0A=0A-----Ori=
ginal Message-----=0AFrom: "Luke Guillory" <lguillory@reservetele.com>=0ASe=
nt: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:50am=0ATo: "Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nethe=
r.net>, "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl@gmail.com>=0ACc: "nanog@nanog.or=
g" <nanog@nanog.org>=0ASubject: RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdr=
essing=0A=0A=0A=0AOur model is 15k a mile all in, this is for aerial not un=
derground for our HFC/Coax builds. A partner of ours models their undergrou=
nd fiber builds at 30k a mile.=0A=0AThis is in south Louisiana so your mark=
et may vary as always.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ALuke Guillory=0ANetwork Operatio=
ns Manager=0A=0ATel: 985.536.1212=0AFax: 985.536.0300=0AEmail: lguillory@re=
servetele.com=0A=0AReserve Telecommunications=0A100 RTC Dr=0AReserve, LA 70=
084=0A=0A__________________________________________________________________=
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ission. .=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounc=
es@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch=0ASent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 =
7:37 AM=0ATo: Baldur Norddahl=0ACc: nanog@nanog.org=0ASubject: Re: SoCal FI=
OS outage(?) / static IP readdressing=0A=0A=0A> On Jan 4, 2017, at 7:54 AM,=
 Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>=0A> I solved this i=
ssue by making my own ISP.=0A=0AI=E2=80=99ve been thinking of the same in m=
y underserved area. Labor is $5/foot here and despite friends and colleague=
s telling me to move, it seems I have a sub-60 month ROI (and sub-year for =
some areas I=E2=80=99ve modeled with modest uptake rates of 15-20% where th=
e other options are fixed wireless, Cellular data or dial).=0A=0AHope is to=
 do a presentation in the fall or next year with progress. We have areas ar=
ound here where Comcast, (AT&T or Frontier) don=E2=80=99t even serve. The m=
unicipality is off getting bids to build due to market failure by the incum=
bents to invest. municipal fiber is nigh on illegal here in Michigan but wi=
th no incumbent it is feasible and my hope is will lock out people who are =
unwilling to invest despite their market cap.=0A=0A- Jared

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