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Re: Canada joins the 21st century !

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Fri Dec 23 23:22:39 2016

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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:22:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
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Fake competition. Lack of innovation competition. Lack of diversity. 

As I said, there are plenty of ways to utilize independents to accomplish reasonable goals. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> 
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:20:18 PM 
Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! 



Thousands of ISPs that collectively add up to a pimple on a horse's ass. In practice you have two dominant landline providers in each market, the ILEC and the cable company. A duopoly with a competitive fringe. Whereas other countries like South Korea and France have achieved much higher broadband penetration rates using other approaches. 





From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:58 PM 
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! 

In the US there are thousands of independent ISPs. I assume Canada at least has hundreds of them. There are plenty of ways of utilize independents to improve access versus throwing cash into a fan. 

Not to mention the ridiculousness of a 50/10 requirement. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "John Sage" <jsage@finchhaven.com> 
To: Nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:23:26 AM 
Subject: Re: Canada joins the 21st century ! 

On 12/23/2016 05:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> The government getting involved with the Internet rarely goes well. The FCC is a shining example of how to usually do it wrong. 
> 

I agree. To hell with 'government'. What has it done for you lately, anyway? 

Canada should just have Comcast (or is it "Xfinity"?) provided 
nation-wide Internet service as a for-profit monopoly. 

Problem solved! 


- John 
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