[192931] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Acquiring unused IP range. Some questions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Faisal Imtiaz)
Fri Dec 2 22:08:58 2016
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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 03:08:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappytelecom.net>
To: William McLendon <wimclend@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4651E4AA-F820-4059-B0CC-CA936D864DDA@gmail.com>
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> My question is, what do they and we need to do to accomplish that in
> the proper way, so that the internet at large would accept the advertisem=
ent
> from a different ASN,
The internet in terms of IP Prefix advertisements is a 'Trust' based system=
.=20
> and not view as some sort of hijacking, etc.
The difference between Hijacking vs a valid advertisement is the simple LOA=
document a.k.a having permission to do so..
> I am guessing they may need to update some RADB or something like that, =
but i=E2=80=99ll be
> honest my knowledge of how those things work and their complete function =
is
> pretty slim.
Only if you are using it for yourself or if your upstream is using it to cr=
eate their prefix Filter lists.
RADB is not the only RRDB provider, ARIN also provides this service=20
> This would be a short term thing as we expect the purchase process to com=
plete
> pretty quickly, but it would be advantageous to us to be able to advertis=
e the
> space immediately. We just want to make sure we start off on the right f=
oot.
>=20
All you need is permission from the IP block owner (LOA) and the appropriat=
e upstream filters to be setup or opened.
Which could be a manual process (provide them a copy of the LOA) or could b=
e a 'Trust' based using RRDB Record which someone has to create and update.
Best of luck.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
----- Original Message -----
> From: "William McLendon" <wimclend@gmail.com>
> To: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:43:57 PM
> Subject: Acquiring unused IP range. Some questions
> Hi everyone,
>=20
> we are about to acquire a block of IP=E2=80=99s from another organization=
that has
> unused space, and being fairly new to these procedures, I was hoping for =
some
> guidance.
>=20
> We have already been pre-approved by ARIN for the block size we are acqui=
ring,
> and finalizing the deal with the current owner of the address space. Fir=
st
> question is, once they initiate the transfer request to transfer the IP r=
ange
> to us, how long does that typically take for ARIN to complete?
>=20
> Secondly, our relationship with the IP block owner is a very good one, su=
ch that
> I think they would be ok with us advertising this block before we technic=
ally
> own it. My question is, what do they and we need to do to accomplish tha=
t in
> the proper way, so that the internet at large would accept the advertisem=
ent
> from a different ASN, and not view as some sort of hijacking, etc. I am
> guessing they may need to update some RADB or something like that, but i=
=E2=80=99ll be
> honest my knowledge of how those things work and their complete function =
is
> pretty slim.
>=20
> This would be a short term thing as we expect the purchase process to com=
plete
> pretty quickly, but it would be advantageous to us to be able to advertis=
e the
> space immediately. We just want to make sure we start off on the right f=
oot.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks,
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> Will
