[192917] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [nanog] Avalanche botnet takedown
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Hellenthal)
Fri Dec 2 13:30:14 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
In-Reply-To: <20161202112830.GA16448@pepino>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 12:30:09 -0600
To: =?utf-8?Q?Hugo_Salgado-Hern=C3=A1ndez?= <hsalgado@nic.cl>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
If I could have it my way, I would say no gTLD=E2=80=99s should be =
allowed to transmit any email messages whatsoever. And force them to =
either use something like sendgrid.com or to purchase a primary .com, =
.org, .net .co.uk whatever etc..=20
But thats just me.
It=E2=80=99s not a nice world but it is just the world we live in today.
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> On Dec 2, 2016, at 05:28, Hugo Salgado-Hern=C3=A1ndez =
<hsalgado@nic.cl> wrote:
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> According to a 2015 paper, 85% of new gTLDs domains was some form
> of parking, defensive redirect, unused, etc:
> <http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/imc/2015/papers/p381.pdf>
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> Hugo
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> On 15:02 01/12, J. Hellenthal wrote:
>> 99% ? That's a pretty high figure there.
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>> --=20
>> Onward!,=20
>> Jason Hellenthal,=20
>> Systems & Network Admin,=20
>> Mobile: 0x9CA0BD58,=20
>> JJH48-ARIN
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>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 14:56, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 05:34:26PM -0000, John Levine wrote:
>>> [...] 800,000 domain names used to control it.
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>> 1. Which is why abusers are registrars' best customers and why
>> (some) registrars work so very hard to support and shield them.
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>> 2. As an aside, I've been doing a little research project for a
>> few years, focused on domains. I've become convinced that *at least*
>> 99% of domains belong to abusers: spammers, phishers, typosquatters,
>> malware distributors, domaineers, combinations of these, etc.=20
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>> In the last year, I've begun thinking that 99% is a serious =
underestimate.
>> (And it most certainly is in some of the new gTLDs.)
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>> ---rsk
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Jason Hellenthal
JJH48-ARIN
