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Re: Crazy flying netbios packets

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Thu Sep 3 13:39:15 1998

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:17:01 -0500
From: Karl Denninger  <karl@mcs.net>
To: Paul Thornton <prt@linx.net>
Cc: Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.93.980903174313.1235D-100000@london.linx.net>; from Paul Thornton on Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 05:48:31PM +0100

On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 05:48:31PM +0100, Paul Thornton wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Pete Ashdown wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone done any estimates on how much net-wide traffic is useless
> > netbios udp?  Are there any suggestions for cutting large chunks of this
> > out of my network without punishing SAMBA and other users who need it?
> 
> On the subject of Windows generated useless traffic, I have been woking with
> RIPE to look at how many queries to k.root-servers.net are for dud TLDs -
> the majority of which are caused by Windows using the DNS to look up the
> local NT domain name - requests of the form "FOO."
> 
> The results are somewhat scary - it seems that around 20% of all queries
> are generated by this behaviour.  I can't give you any more info at present,
> as we are still working on the data - it is literally something I am in the
> middle of doing at the moment, but wanted to give a quick heads up to folks
> in the light of this thread.

Which, for a true root server with a working set of a couple of hundred
kilobytes of data (and a couple of megabytes including buffer space, bss,
and text) is absolutely irrelavent.

Now if you want to talk about *misconfigured* servers which happen to have
2M+ entries on them because they are *also* serving TLDs, well, perhaps
there the processing time and requirements *are* relavent.

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