[192300] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Spitballing IoT Security
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Mon Oct 24 19:39:25 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:17:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20161024205325.GA72929@e-fensive.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
There's a buffer overrun in some software, so let's just remove all passwords (and keys), since they can get in anyway.
Just pointing out flawed logic.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Oquendo" <joquendo@e-fensive.net>
To: "Steve Mikulasik" <Steve.Mikulasik@civeo.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 3:53:25 PM
Subject: Re: Spitballing IoT Security
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Steve Mikulasik wrote:
> if we automatically blackholed those IPs as they get updated it could put a big dent in the effectiveness of Zeus.
>
That would involve someone lifting a finger and implement
a config change. Much easier to implement BCP38 or was it
RFC 4732? Would never work the moment someone has to lift
a finger.
/*
I think I'll change my position on BCP38. It's pointless to try
blocking spoofed source addresses because:
* It doesn't solve every single problem
* It means more effort for service providers
* It requires more CPU processing power
* Using it will generate smarter "black hats".
https://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/mailarchives/old_archive/2004-10/msg00132.html
*/
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