[192283] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dyn DDoS this AM?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Lyamin)
Mon Oct 24 14:40:51 2016
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From: Alexander Lyamin <la@qrator.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 20:12:03 +0200
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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Its not a first time we have and large scale DDoS incident.
Its not a first time we have (a kind of) knee-jerk reaction.
I think its a right time to direct community attention to this document
https://www.routingmanifesto.org/manrs/
It's work in progress. But its a good start.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>
wrote:
> I cannot give additional info other than what=E2=80=99s been on =E2=80=9C=
public media=E2=80=9D.
>
> However, I would very much like to say that this is a horrific trend on
> the Internet. The idea that someone can mention a DDoS then get DDoS=E2=
=80=99ed Can
> Not Stand. See Krebs=E2=80=99 on the Democratization of Censorship. See l=
ots of
> other things.
>
> To Dyn and everyone else being attacked:
> The community is behind you. There are problems, but if we stick together=
,
> we can beat these miscreants.
>
> To the miscreants:
> You will not succeed. Search "churchill on the beaches=E2=80=9D. It=E2=80=
=99s a bit
> melodramatic, but it=E2=80=99s how I feel at this moment.
>
> To the rest of the community:
> If you can help, please do. I know a lot of you are thinking =E2=80=9Cwha=
t can I
> do?" There is a lot you can do. BCP38 & BCP84 instantly come to mind. Sur=
e,
> that doesn=E2=80=99t help Mirai, but it still helps. There are many other=
things
> you can do as well.
>
> But a lot of it is just willingness to help. When someone asks you to hel=
p
> trace an attack, do not let the request sit for a while. Damage is being
> done. Help your neighbor. When someone=E2=80=99s house is burning, your c=
urrent
> project, your lunch break, whatever else you are doing is almost certainl=
y
> less important. If we stick together and help each other, we can - we WIL=
L
> - win this war. If we are apathetic, we have already lost.
>
>
> OK, enough motivational speaking for today. But take this to heart. Our
> biggest problem is people thinking they cannot or do not want to help.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> > On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any additional details? Seems to be over now, but I'm
> very
> > curious about the specifics of such a highly impactful attack (and it's
> > timing following NANOG 68)...
> >
> > https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts-
> twitter-spotify-reddit/
> >
> > --
> > @ChrisGrundemann
> > http://chrisgrundemann.com
>
>
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