[191911] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN legacy block transfer process
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Oct 3 21:00:37 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20160930174745.GF12280@ernw.de>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:21:51 -0700
To: Enno Rey <erey@ernw.de>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
That page is rather out of date as the RIPE policy it refers to was =
passed and then modified to (somewhat) restore needs basis.
Owen
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Enno Rey <erey@ernw.de> wrote:
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> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:26:36AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> On 9/30/16 09:49, Bryan Fields wrote:
>>> I'm trying to find a place on ARIN's website where this is =
addressed, but
>>> coming up short. I'm not the seller or buyer in this, but basically =
someone
>>> has a legacy block allocated by Postel and wants to sell the block =
as it's an
>>> owned asset.
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>>> What's the process to get ARIN to move the admin/ownership of this? =
Do they
>>> only need to see a valid asset purchase agreement? There is no =
legacy RSA for
>>> this.
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>> It'll have to go under RSA to stay with ARIN.
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>> Or you can do a transfer to RIPE.
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> carefully note the "or".
> If you first move it under ARIN's jurisdiction (by signing an RSA) and =
*then* transfer it to RIPE, it won't be "legacy" any more in the course =
of the 2nd step and RIPE's 2-yr holding period comes into play (=3D> it =
can't be transferred during that time).
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> Note also there's voices recommending not to sign an RSA for legacy =
space (in certain situations, at least), see =
http://ipv4marketgroup.com/dont-sign-an-rsa-during-your-82-ipv4-transfer/.=
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> best
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> Enno
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>> ~Seth
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