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Re: Request for comment -- BCP38

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hugo Slabbert)
Mon Sep 26 12:37:30 2016

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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:37:05 -0700
From: Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
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On Mon 2016-Sep-26 12:25:58 -0400, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

>>>>I gather the usual customer response to this is "if you don't want our
>>>>$50K/mo, I'm sure we can find another ISP who does."
>
>>I myself am talking about the latter and included the option of PI=20
>>space to cover that (although I guess at some point this can be=20
>>made fly with PA space from another provider if both providers are=20
>>willing enough to play ball), though from the $50/mo figure John=20
>>listed, I'm assuming he's talking about the latter.
>
>Who said $50/mo?

Apparently I need even more caffeine that I first imagined...

If we're talking about networks with that kind of MRC, is it really that=20
far of a stretch to require PI space for this?  Then again:  If we're=20
talking about that kind of MRC, then I'm assuming ISP A can be coaxed to=20
allow explicit and well-defined exceptions on the customer's links.

This discussion started wrt to COTS dual-ISP routers though, as mentioned=
=20
in Ken Chase's message, no?  Where I'm assuming we're talking about=20
mom-and-pop operations rather than a $50K/mo business account.

>
>Regards,
>John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dumm=
ies",
>Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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