[191447] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Thu Sep 15 14:48:30 2016
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To: Ken Chase <math@sizone.org>, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca>
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:48:05 -0700
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From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
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Subject: Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852
for IP Transit?)
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On 9/15/16 11:28 AM, Ken Chase wrote:
> I feel this can be a public topic:
>
> Rogers just charged us that for an update (one update, multiple entries=
).
> We had to go through their quotation machinery too, took like 4-5 days.=
Additional
> time was wasted because we contacted their tech dept directly at the st=
art. (which
> is what I do for all my other upstreams...)
>
> Kinda brutal.
Coordination problems are a point of high friction and cost for low
margin products. I generally prefer that my providers be able to
generate prefix filters on the basis of route objects, If it's not part
of their service offering; how costs are assigned for service requests
is going to be part of contract negotiions.
joel
> Cogent and HE nor NAC or Yipes or Tata ever did that to us.
>
> Nickle and diming -- why, cuz transit is a cheap commodity now, gotta m=
ake the
> cash somewhere?
>
> That said Cogent offered us a static /26 along side our BGP years ago t=
hen warned
> us it'd be $50/mo or something for that # of ips going forward. We didn=
t need it
> so dispensed with it.
>
> /kc
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld said:
> >If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I=
???d be interested in hearing from you.
> >
> >I???d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for e=
ach BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we???re the only ones???
> >
> >Thanks in advance!
>
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