[191250] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Cloudflare reverse DNS SERVFAIL, normal?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Aug 30 19:46:58 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <8738.1472597403@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:43:59 -0700
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Aug 30, 2016, at 15:50 , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:39:10 -0700, Owen DeLong said:
>=20
>> I run a pair of nameservers. Let=E2=80=99s call them ns1.company.com
>> and ns2.company.com
>=20
>> Someone registers example.com and points NS records in the COM zone =
at my
>> nameservers.
>=20
> I would have expected that the resulting NXDOMAIN replies from ns1 and =
ns2
> would usually make this a self-correcting problem.

You don=E2=80=99t get NXDOMAIN when a nameserver gets a request for a =
zone it doesn=E2=80=99t
serve.

You either get SERVFAIL or you  get NS records back as a referral.

> Are there actually people who do this misconfiguration on a zone big =
enough
> for the traffic to matter, and leave it that way for very long before =
they
> clue in that things aren't working right?  I'd think that if somebody =
points
> billy-bobs-bait-tackle-and-internet.com at you, it might take you =
quite some
> time to notice - and if somebody whoopsies and points ebay.com's NS =
records
> at you, the resulting disfunction would be noticed fairly soon=E2=80=A6.=


Depends on your definition of =E2=80=9Cmatter=E2=80=9D.

Also, misconfiguring one important zone doesn=E2=80=99t necessarily =
generate significantly
more traffic than generating a whole lot of unimportant ones. Especially =
if
you misconfigure zones in ip6.arpa or in-addr.arpa as was the case at =
the
beginning of this topic.

> (Miscreants who do this intentionally are, of course, a totally =
different
> kettle of fish, and need to be dealt with as micreants....)

Yep, though one has to wonder why they would bother.

Owen


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post