[190814] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed Jul 27 20:34:05 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: Dan Hollis <goemon@sasami.anime.net>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1607271119390.20298@yuri.anime.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:33:51 -0400
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>, bzs@theworld.com
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:21:02 -0700, Dan Hollis said:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
> > There isn't even general agreement on whether (or what!) Cloudfare is
> > doing is a problem.
>
> aiding and abetting. at the very least willful negligence.
aiding and abetting of what, *exactly*? You can't accuse somebody of
it until (as Barry Shein pointed out) you have a workable definition of
what exactly you're talking about. Similarly, "willful negligence" in most
places requires you to draw a dotted line between the alleged negligent
action, and some claimed damage or loss on your part - of a form that
a court can provide a remedy for.
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