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Re: IPv6 deployment excuses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matt Hoppes)
Mon Jul 4 12:28:35 2016

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From: Matt Hoppes <mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1607041753350.2309@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:28:28 -0400
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Except the lady will eventually downsize. The college student will want more=
 and lease the space.=20

Also, the 49,000 Sq ft office space that has been leased for 10 years and ne=
ver occupied will be taken back and released to someone who will actually de=
velop it.=20

> On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:58, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
>=20
>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2016, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>=20
>> My point is there are more than enough IPv4 addresses. The issue is not r=
esources. It is hoarding and inappropriate use.
>=20
> I tend to make the analogy of land use and/or houses/apartments. Yes, ther=
e is that old lady down the street who lives in 300 square meters (~3000 sq f=
eet for those who are !metric), and then there is the student who shares a 3=
0sq meter studio with another student.
>=20
> Now what? Yes, this is not fair and it's inefficient utilization of resour=
ces, but how are you going to rectify this? Forcibly take away the apartment=
 from the old lady and tell her to go live somewhere else just because it is=
n't fair that she has 10 times the apartment size as the student?
>=20
> IPv6 is the answer, because it doesn't have shortcoming when it comes to a=
vailable "land". Everybody can get plenty. No need to try to take away resou=
rces from someone holding them (legitimately) as per the rules of yestercent=
ury.

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