[190367] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Raphael)
Wed Jun 29 19:38:50 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <ee45f872-18cd-89a4-1638-ac9502e19624@rollernet.us>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 07:38:42 +0800
To: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
There is a downside to subscription pricing for the vendor: they don't get t=
he instant cashflow they're used to. I know Cisco seems to be taking a tacti=
c where only some product lines use subscriptions and the others are on a ty=
pical enterprise 3-5 year replacements cycle to provide Cisco with the larg=
e cash injections upon upgrade.
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> On 30 Jun 2016, at 7:00 AM, Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
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>> On 6/29/16 15:33, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>> My biggest issue with Meraki is the fundamentally flawed business model,
>> biased in favor of vendor lock in and endlessly recurring payments to the=
>> equipment vendor rather than the ISP or enterprise end user.
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>> You should not have to pay a yearly subscription fee to keep your in-hous=
e
>> 802.11(abgn/ac) wifi access points operating. The very idea that the
>> equipment you purchased which worked flawlessly on day one will stop
>> working not because it's broken, or obsolete, but because your
>> *subscription* expired...
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> I'm sure most hardware makers would love to lock in a revenue stream of "k=
eep me working" subscriptions if they could get away with it. =46rom the com=
pany's perspective what's not to love about that kind of guaranteed revenue?=
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> I often wonder if Microsoft will someday make Office365 the only way to ge=
t Office, which if you don't maintain a subscription your locally installed c=
opy of Word will cease to function.
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> ~Seth