[190221] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP and Optical domains?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gert Grammel)
Sun Jun 19 10:10:37 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Gert Grammel <ggrammel@juniper.net>
To: "glen.kent@gmail.com" <glen.kent@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:09:01 +0000
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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