[190211] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP and Optical domains?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Sat Jun 18 19:07:49 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 08:07:48 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1606182356190.28955@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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> You have a group that runs fiber+dwdm+sonet(or SDH). You have another
> group that runs IP. When the IP guys ask "please tell us how the optical
> network is designed, and can we coordinate how they're built and btw, we
> want to put DWDM optics in our routers", the answer from the
> fiber+dwdm+sonet group is "no, but we can help you with transport using
> our transponders, please just order circuits, just give us addresses for
> each end and we'll take care of things, don't you worry your little IP
> engineer brain how things are transported long distance".
>
> I believe this is still the case at a lot of ISPs. Not all, hopefully not
> even most, but I'm sure there are some.
you underestimate the extent of the dogged determination of circuitzilla
to hang on to the fiber with her/his fingernails.
randy
