[190186] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leo Bicknell)
Fri Jun 17 11:00:02 2016
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From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
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In a message written on Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 02:58:12PM +0100, Marty Strong=
wrote:
> Yes, if the IXP is distributed across more than one building then you hav=
e choice as to where you (and other people) put their equipment, so you may=
have to go to another building to connect to certain peers. Sadly nobody l=
ives in a perfect world, so IMO having the IXP distributed across multiple =
buildings is better as you can connect to all those who are in your buildin=
g directly, and peer with the rest over the distributed IXP.
I don't think there is an absolute right or wrong answer.
The ISP who needs to connect to 100 ISP's at 50M each has a
dramatically different need than the ISP that needs to connect to
20 ISP's at 6x100G each. Both exist in the world.
The presenter clearly thought that a number of IXP's aren't serving
their customers/members well. What we're finding out in this thread
is how many folks agree or disagree! :)
Personally I'm with another poster, the real problem here is colos
that want to charge large MRC's for a cross connect. I know of at
least one still trying to get $1000/mo for a fiber pair to another
customer. For $1000/mo I can get GigE transit delivered _to my
office_ by multiple carriers. To charge that for a cross connect
is just so, so wrong.
IMHO in building fiber should be NRC only, but if it has a MRC component
(to pay for future troubleshooting or somesuch) it should be small, like
$5/mo. That's $60 year to do nothing, and even if the $40 an hour fiber
tech spends a hour troubleshooting _every fiber_ (which doesn't happen)
the colo still makes money.
Cross connects are our industry's $100 gold plated HDMI cables.
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Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org
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