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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Hargrave)
Fri Jun 17 05:31:20 2016

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From: "Will Hargrave" <will@harg.net>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:31:12 +0100
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On 17 Jun 2016, at 1:15, Daniel Golding wrote:

> You said that LONAP's distributed strategy "kept datacenters honest" =

> to use
> your exact quote. That implied some sort of benefit for members in =

> acting
> as some sort of counterweight to (rapacious?) data center providers.

I rely primarily on information from our membership base who reaffirm =

their desire for a multi-site approach. They (and you) are the people =

with the data, as they are the people buying these services.

The origin of these designs was probably not out of a desire for =

diversity to promote competition, but actually because existing =

datacentres were full.
Nevertheless, a datacentre which is full, incompetently run, or too =

expensive all have something in common - to my members they are useless.

> I made the point that distributed IX's don't really
> impact power or space costs in data centers. I can provide actual data =

> on
> this, if you would like.

What about crossconnect prices?

It is interesting you have data that indicates that this policy could be =

futile, because the belief in this principle is almost axiomatic in =

our/my community.
Did we waste time and money spanning metros with IXs=10?

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