[190113] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ca By)
Wed Jun 15 23:24:55 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <b77dca7e-bc86-9cbe-8d6e-81a315ba17d0@rollernet.us>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:24:04 -0700
From: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
> On 6/15/16 4:03 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
>
>> There=E2=80=99s a difference between the cost and the product. As regar=
ds the
>> cost, Arnold is exactly right. Across the many hundreds of exchanges th=
at
>> we=E2=80=99ve worked with over the past 22 years, our observation has be=
en that, at
>> a rough average, most IXPs spend 45% of their first-year effort on locat=
ion
>> selection, 45% on governance definition and establishment, and 10% on
>> technical decisions and implementation. But the total effort and the
>> governance portion both increase drastically for those that choose to
>> handle money; at a very, very rough average, about four-fold. In
>> subsequent years, location selection generally drops away to near zero,
>> except in cases like the JINX, and technical work dips for the first cou=
ple
>> of years, and then spikes once every three years or so as switches are
>> replaced and new configs are needed. Many exchanges have an annual
>> in-person meeting where elections are conducted and policy changes
>> ratified, so that typically becomes the largest ongoing expense, as Arno=
ld
>> implies.
>>
>
> Why do IXes seek to create a bureaucracy that needs to be fed increasing
> sums of money?
>
> ~Seth
>
Cough cough ARIN cough. I don't know why they need to meet face to face 2
or 3 times a year. But, i am sure ppml will tell you it is a ground up
process and these people on ppml like traveling and talking about
policy.... And they do what members want.
Much of our industry can be gleened by googling pictures of "peering
cruise". At my office, we joke about that a lot. Peering cruise ...jeeshhh.
I can't recommend SIX enough. Epic IX, amazing support. I get much better
support from SIX than any of my transit providers. Amazing support.
I also like sfmix and fl-ix.
